[NCLUG] users only

[Matt Taggart]

Mike Loseke writes...

>  And when did this become the "standard practice"?

I meant it's current standard practice for most lists in the free software 
world, not standard practice for NCLUG.

> The NCLUG list has always, since it's very first inception on the VISLAB
> machines at CSU, set the Reply-To as the name of the list.

Yes, I'm aware of that.

My intent in changing it was to make the list consistant with normal email(and 
most other lists) so as not to confuse new users. After all when your friend 
sends a message to you and a bunch of others, hitting reply only replies to 
your friend. As most other lists are setup to not-munge they are consistant 
with this behavior. By munging replyto, what you're saying is that the 
behavior should be different because a particular address is a mailing list.

Unless users are actively watching the headers they may get unexpected 
behavior until they realize(and remember each time) that this list is setup 
differently. I know I've been stung buy it several times because I'm so used 
to the behavior on other lists.

>  Can we request, then, that something making that perfectly clear be added
> to either the "welcome to nclug" message new subscribers get or to the
> chunk tacked onto the end of every message? Or both?

Yes, if we decide to leave it this way.

>  My primary concern with this is that the questions and answers which this
> list exists for not be lost because someone forgot to hit the right button
> or key. There's a 50% chance of that happenning with every message now
> whereas before it was much closer to 0. Unless things have drastically
> changed since this list was created, this isn't a list for l33t haxxorz
> and elitists but instead a Q&A forum for both novices (in all senses of
> the word) and more experienced folks.

We all have the best interests of the nclug community at heart. No one wants 
nclug to be closed elitist group. We're just solving different problems.

FYI to nclug - Mike and I argued about this a few years ago when I took over 
the list. At the time I deferred to his experience and set it up the same way. 
When willy brought it up a few weeks ago I thought maybe the time had come to 
change it since I'm not aware of any other lists that are still setup this 
way. There are obviously a few people on the list who want the old behavior. 
Unless a few people(other than willy and I) speak up in favor of the new 
behavior I will change it back.

>  If I'm mistaken, I'll shut up and leave.

You're not mistaken, you don't need to shut up or leave, these aren't the 
droids you're looking for, move along.

-- 
Matt Taggart
matt at lackof.org