From jafo at tummy.com  Sun Jan  1 20:58:35 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sun,  1 Jan 2006 20:58:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [NCLUG] ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 03, 2006
Message-ID: <20060102035835.3FAEA8104C@guin.tummy.com>

   Dinner: A Taste of Philly, 7pm.
   Meeting: Bean Cycle Coffee Shop, 144 N College Ave, 8pm

This Tuesday from 8pm to 11pm we will be having another installment of the
Hacking Society.  At 7pm we'll be gathering at a restaurant for dinner,
then heading over to the Bean Cycle at 8pm for the main event.

We will be meeting for dinner at 7pm at A Taste of Philly.  A Taste of
Philly is on the south west corner of Olive and College, 2 and a half
blocks south of the Bean Cycle.

The goal of the Hacking Society is to foster geek community-building
through the shared experience of hacking. Of course, by "hacking",
I mean the more historic meaning of working on interesting projects
(Jargon File "hack" entry, sense 6). Not the "script kiddies trying to
compromise boxes" meaning which has become what most people think of in
relation to the term.

It's meant to be a sacred place full of positive hacking energy, if you
will.  Hacking by osmosis...

Hacking Society is primarily meant for you to come and work on your own
projects, as opposed to soliciting others to solve your problems (which is
usually more what goes on at an Install Fest or at the main NCLUG
meetings).

More information on Hacking Society, including some ideas for projects to
work on there, can be found at:

   http://www.hackingsociety.org/

Sean
-- 
 What no spouse of a programmer can ever understand is that a programmer is
 working when he's staring out the window.
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python


From nighthawk999 at bigvalley.net  Mon Jan  2 12:27:32 2006
From: nighthawk999 at bigvalley.net (nighthawk999 at bigvalley.net)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:27:32 -0800
Subject: [NCLUG] Re: ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 03,
	2006 (Sean Reifschneider)
Message-ID: <198630-22006112192732691@bigvalley.net>

And the ESSID for Tue. night is ...?

-Shorter

>Today's Topics:
>
>   1. ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 03, 2006 (Sean
>Reifschneider)



Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at <a href="http://www.BigValley.net">www.BigValley.net</a> 



From efm at tummy.com  Mon Jan  2 12:53:58 2006
From: efm at tummy.com (Evelyn Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:53:58 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] Re: ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 03,
	2006 (Sean Reifschneider)
In-Reply-To: <198630-22006112192732691@bigvalley.net>
References: <198630-22006112192732691@bigvalley.net>
Message-ID: <20060102195358.GA21126@tummy.com>

* On 2006-01-02 12:38 nighthawk999 at bigvalley.net <nighthawk999 at bigvalley.net> wrote:
> And the ESSID for Tue. night is ...?

If you attend, we'll tell you.

efm

> 
> -Shorter
> 
> >Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 03, 2006 (Sean
> >Reifschneider)
> 
> 
> 
> Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at <a href="http://www.BigValley.net">www.BigValley.net</a> 
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From 9vclye202 at sneakemail.com  Mon Jan  2 23:02:20 2006
From: 9vclye202 at sneakemail.com (Tim Chambers)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:02:20 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] Linux Users mapped at Frappr
Message-ID: <43BA136C.6050700@sneakemail.com>

Yet another way to identify yourself as a Linux user.

http://www.frappr.com/linuxusers

<>< Tim




From jdewitt at verinet.com  Sat Jan  7 13:17:23 2006
From: jdewitt at verinet.com (James DeWitt)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:17:23 -0600
Subject: [NCLUG] January 10th NCLUG Meeting
Message-ID: <200601071317.23351.jdewitt@verinet.com>

Hi NCLUGers,

What: January NCLUG Meeting
When: Tuesday January 10th, 6pm
Where: College America,  4601 S Mason St, at Harmony (map at nclug.org)
Food afterwards: TBD

Presenter: Peter Saint-Andre

Topic: Jabber: Open Instant Messaging and a Whole Lot More

Abstract: Jabber is a set of open technologies for instant messaging, 
presence, and streaming XML. Peter will discuss the history, current 
state, and future direction of the Jabber open-source projects, 
commercial adoption by the likes of Google, Apple, HP, and Sun, the 
impact of IETF standardization, and fun things you can do with Jabber 
technologies.

Bio: first paragraph of http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml

See you there!

-- 
James DeWitt



From siegfried at heintze.com  Sun Jan  8 21:50:41 2006
From: siegfried at heintze.com (Siegfried Heintze)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:50:41 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] When is the Next Install Fest? How about a Disaster Recover
	Fest?
In-Reply-To: <1133373973.12341.10.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <25913949.1136782254343.JavaMail.SYSTEM@CCC-NOVA1>

I had so much fun at the last install fest I can hardly wait for the next
one! I think Crawford said there was going to be another one sometime in
February. Are there any details yet?

Do install fests ever have a theme? After our extensive discussion on
disaster recover on the BLUG mailing list here are some thoughts I have for
a theme for the install fest:

(My assumption about disaster recovery is that you don't find it feasible to
rebuild your boot disk from scratch and you need to either perform a
diskless boot or a boot from a CD/DVD from which you could restore your boot
disk. Is this a reasonable assumption?)


Learn how to do (and configure our machines/network cards for) diskless
boots and subsequent use of rdiff/rbackup from 
    (1) A hacked Linksys a NSLU2 NAS server (they are only $100 -- anyone
know how to hack them so they serve NFS instead of CIFS?)
    (2) A USB disk on a friend's machine accessible via the internet (anyone
want to volunteer a disk and an perm IP address?)
    (3) A service that allows diskless boots over the public internet (is
there such a thing?)
    (4) A mondo/mindo rescue CD.

I've never done any of these and I would like to learn how to do them all.

>From the discussions on BLUG, I'm still not clear as to whether it is
feasible to do a diskless boot over the public internet. Someone said it was
feasible and someone else said it wasn't. I have not had a chance to
research it myself yet. I'm, of course, assuming it is feasible and would be
something we could set up for such an install fest. Maybe some hosting
service would want to facilitate this in return for the exposure? If it is
not feasible, maybe there are some other alternatives you could suggest?

Thanks,
Siegfried



From william.terry at knotworks.com  Sat Jan  7 10:12:34 2006
From: william.terry at knotworks.com (William Dan Terry)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:12:34 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] free 4mm DAT cleaning tapes
In-Reply-To: <E1B42kY-0000eu-JQ@host.linuxsv7.net>
References: <E1B42kY-0000eu-JQ@host.linuxsv7.net>
Message-ID: <20060107101234.4cff53b6.william.terry@knotworks.com>

Found 2 unused and I've already given away the drive. They are Sony
DG5CL.

Peace, William

___________W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y___________
How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things? -David Brin

    PGP public key:     http://www.knotworks.com/wdt_pgp_pubkey.asc
    fingerprint: BE50 6158 80F3 78FF 16B1  C85F 7CCB 3FEB 5485 56E5


From meaje at meanspc.com  Sun Jan  8 23:31:52 2006
From: meaje at meanspc.com (Jeffrey D. Means)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:31:52 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] free 4mm DAT cleaning tapes
In-Reply-To: <20060107101234.4cff53b6.william.terry@knotworks.com>
References: <E1B42kY-0000eu-JQ@host.linuxsv7.net>
	<20060107101234.4cff53b6.william.terry@knotworks.com>
Message-ID: <1136788312.10387.3.camel@jeff-w.meanspc.com>

I'm interested in them if you still have them.

--Jeff
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 10:12 -0700, William Dan Terry wrote:
> Found 2 unused and I've already given away the drive. They are Sony
> DG5CL.
> 
> Peace, William
> 
> ___________W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y___________
> How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things? -David Brin
> 
>     PGP public key:     http://www.knotworks.com/wdt_pgp_pubkey.asc
>     fingerprint: BE50 6158 80F3 78FF 16B1  C85F 7CCB 3FEB 5485 56E5
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From wt at penguintechs.com  Fri Jan 13 17:52:38 2006
From: wt at penguintechs.com (Warren Turkal)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:52:38 -0600
Subject: [NCLUG] test message
Message-ID: <200601131852.38660.wt@penguintechs.com>

test message

-- 
Warren Turkal, Research Associate III
Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Research
http://www.atmos.colostate.edu/


From wt at penguintechs.com  Fri Jan 13 17:54:54 2006
From: wt at penguintechs.com (Warren Turkal)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:54:54 -0600
Subject: [NCLUG] second test message
Message-ID: <200601131854.54945.wt@penguintechs.com>

second test message

-- 
Warren Turkal, Research Associate III
Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Research
http://www.atmos.colostate.edu/


From jafo at tummy.com  Sun Jan 15 21:58:44 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:58:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [NCLUG] ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 17, 2006
Message-ID: <20060116045844.2C9AF8B5CE@guin.tummy.com>

   Dinner: La Luz, 7pm.
   Meeting: Bean Cycle Coffee Shop, 144 N College Ave, 8pm

This Tuesday from 8pm to 11pm we will be having another installment of the
Hacking Society.  At 7pm we'll be gathering at a restaurant for dinner,
then heading over to the Bean Cycle at 8pm for the main event.

We will be meeting for dinner at 7pm at La Luz.  La Luz is north from the
Bean Cycle at the lights, and then east southeast a quarter block.

The goal of the Hacking Society is to foster geek community-building
through the shared experience of hacking. Of course, by "hacking",
I mean the more historic meaning of working on interesting projects
(Jargon File "hack" entry, sense 6). Not the "script kiddies trying to
compromise boxes" meaning which has become what most people think of in
relation to the term.

It's meant to be a sacred place full of positive hacking energy, if you
will.  Hacking by osmosis...

Hacking Society is primarily meant for you to come and work on your own
projects, as opposed to soliciting others to solve your problems (which is
usually more what goes on at an Install Fest or at the main NCLUG
meetings).

More information on Hacking Society, including some ideas for projects to
work on there, can be found at:

   http://www.hackingsociety.org/

Sean
-- 
 What no spouse of a programmer can ever understand is that a programmer is
 working when he's staring out the window.
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python


From crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com  Thu Jan 19 19:38:47 2006
From: crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com (Crawford Rainwater)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:38:47 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] ANN: CLUE-North meeting, 23 Jan
Message-ID: <1137724727.10914.31.camel@localhost>

Greeting:

CLUE-North will be having its monthly meeting this coming Monday, 23
January 2006 at 7PM at DeVry University's Westminster Campus.  For
directions, please visit CLUE's web site at

http://www.cluedenver.org/display.php?node=north_info

This month's topic is VPN by Dale Laushman.

Hope to see everyone there!

--- Crawford
CLUE-North Coordinator



From crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com  Fri Jan 20 09:24:41 2006
From: crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com (Crawford Rainwater)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:24:41 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] OT - FS: APC laptop cases
Message-ID: <1137774281.10852.39.camel@localhost>

Folks:

I have for sale a few laptop cases from APC.  Below are the URLs for all
the specs:

TravelCase Nylon 1300 cu-in:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=TC1300B

These come with the APC TravelPower Adapter with 120V plug kit:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=TPA90DC

Asking for $80 + S/H + sales tax (if inside CO) for the above.


TravelCase Roller 1800 cu-in:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=TC1800R
(Does not come with the above noted power supply though.)

Asking for $70 + S/H + sales tax (if inside CO) for this case.

I also have some old(er) IBM ThinkPad Alpha roller cases as well,
however they have been discontinued so I do not have a URL for it.  I
can email specifics as requested on those.  These were designed for the
larger screened Model A's initially (like an A21p for example), so quite
roomy for the laptop plus accessories and extras.

Please email or call me directly for any questions or offers.  Thanks in
advance.

--- Crawford
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+1 (303) 664-0036 (fax)
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From crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com  Fri Jan 20 16:20:57 2006
From: crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com (Crawford Rainwater)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:20:57 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] Additional info (was ANN: CLUE-North meeting, 23 Jan)
In-Reply-To: <1137724727.10914.31.camel@localhost>
References: <1137724727.10914.31.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1137799257.10852.110.camel@localhost>

For reference, the room at DeVry will be room 341, the lab where the
past InstallFests have been held.  My apologies for leaving that out.

--- Crawford
CLUE-North Coordinator

On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:38 -0700, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> Greeting:
> 
> CLUE-North will be having its monthly meeting this coming Monday, 23
> January 2006 at 7PM at DeVry University's Westminster Campus.  For
> directions, please visit CLUE's web site at
> 
> http://www.cluedenver.org/display.php?node=north_info
> 
> This month's topic is VPN by Dale Laushman.
> 
> Hope to see everyone there!
> 
> --- Crawford
> CLUE-North Coordinator



From jafo at tummy.com  Sat Jan 21 13:05:19 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:05:19 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
Message-ID: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>

Over the last week I've been working on the next generation of the wireless
connection script that I wrote a couple of years ago.  It continues the
goal of your wireless just working, without having to mess around with a
panel application.

Note however that it's not a GUI application.  You will need to be
comfortable with making simple scripts (many of them empty or with only
name=value pairs) to be able to really take advantage of wifiroamd.  It's
definitely possible to have a GUI in front of this engine, but I don't have
any tuits to do a GUI for it.

I built it last weekend, and have been refining it with the feedback of
folks on the #hackingsociety IRC channel.  This morning I put the last
documentation touches on, and have pushed out what I expect to be the 1.00
release candidate.

If you're interested, give it a shot at:

   http://www.tummy.com/Community/software/wifiroamd/

Thanks,
Sean
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 Read error: 666 (Connection reset by Satan)
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      Back off man. I'm a scientist.   http://HackingSociety.org/



From wt at penguintechs.com  Sat Jan 21 20:48:34 2006
From: wt at penguintechs.com (Warren Turkal)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:48:34 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
Message-ID: <200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>

On Saturday 21 January 2006 13:05, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> Over the last week I've been working on the next generation of the wireless
> connection script that I wrote a couple of years ago.  It continues the
> goal of your wireless just working, without having to mess around with a
> panel application.

How does it work with wpasupplicant?

wt
-- 
Warren Turkal, Research Associate III
Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Research
http://www.atmos.colostate.edu/


From jafo at tummy.com  Sun Jan 22 14:52:14 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:52:14 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
Message-ID: <20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com>

On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:48:34PM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote:
>How does it work with wpasupplicant?

It doesn't.  Supposedly, wpasupplicant can do similar things, but it's
unclear to me how wpasupplicant would handle things like roaming between
un-encrypted APs...  I looked at it before I started writing wifiroamd, and
it didn't seem like it had anything to help there.

IMHO, WEP and WPA are only the 80% solution.  They will protect against
someone else listening via RF in your physical location, but they don't
protect against someone else on the network at the coffee shop, or up
stream from there (like, if the coffee shop has a long-haul wireless
without encryption, or a compromised router or network along the way).

I run everything over a VPN, so everything going to my servers is secure,
and things going to public sites or otherwise not going to our servers is
only inspectable from my servers to the final destination.

I've never been able to get wpasupplicant working when I tried it, but that
was quite a while ago.  I have no real experience with it though.  I would
imagine that I could make a plugin that would start/stop wpasupplicant, but
I don't know exactly how it would interact with wifiroamd.

Thanks,
Sean
-- 
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                 -- Evelyn Mitchell
Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
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From wt at penguintechs.com  Sun Jan 22 17:18:52 2006
From: wt at penguintechs.com (Warren Turkal)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:18:52 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
	<20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com>
Message-ID: <200601221718.52692.wt@penguintechs.com>

On Sunday 22 January 2006 14:52, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> It doesn't.  Supposedly, wpasupplicant can do similar things, but it's
> unclear to me how wpasupplicant would handle things like roaming between
> un-encrypted APs...  I looked at it before I started writing wifiroamd, and
> it didn't seem like it had anything to help there.

Here is a snippet from my wpasupplicant.conf for a couple of the unencrypted 
nets I use.

etwork={
        ssid="MugsCoffeeLounge"
        key_mgmt=NONE
}

network={
        ssid="linksys"
        key_mgmt=NONE
}


wt
-- 
Warren Turkal, Research Associate III
Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Research
http://www.atmos.colostate.edu/


From jafo at tummy.com  Sun Jan 22 19:27:28 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:27:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [NCLUG] ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 24, 2006
Message-ID: <20060123022728.920C88B786@guin.tummy.com>

   Dinner: The Spicy Pickle, 7pm.
   Meeting: Bean Cycle Coffee Shop, 144 N College Ave, 8pm

This Tuesday from 8pm to 11pm we will be having another installment of the
Hacking Society.  At 7pm we'll be gathering at a restaurant for dinner,
then heading over to the Bean Cycle at 8pm for the main event.

We will be meeting for dinner at 7pm at The Spicy Pickle, directly across
the street from The Bean Cycle.

The goal of the Hacking Society is to foster geek community-building
through the shared experience of hacking. Of course, by "hacking",
I mean the more historic meaning of working on interesting projects
(Jargon File "hack" entry, sense 6). Not the "script kiddies trying to
compromise boxes" meaning which has become what most people think of in
relation to the term.

It's meant to be a sacred place full of positive hacking energy, if you
will.  Hacking by osmosis...

Hacking Society is primarily meant for you to come and work on your own
projects, as opposed to soliciting others to solve your problems (which is
usually more what goes on at an Install Fest or at the main NCLUG
meetings).

More information on Hacking Society, including some ideas for projects to
work on there, can be found at:

   http://www.hackingsociety.org/

Sean
-- 
 What no spouse of a programmer can ever understand is that a programmer is
 working when he's staring out the window.
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python


From tkil at scrye.com  Mon Jan 23 01:10:41 2006
From: tkil at scrye.com (Tkil)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:10:41 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com> (Sean Reifschneider's message
	of "Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:52:14 -0700")
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
	<20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com>
Message-ID: <g7j8rjrem.fsf@brand.scrye.com>

>>>>> "Sean" == Sean Reifschneider <jafo at tummy.com> writes:

Sean> IMHO, WEP and WPA are only the 80% solution.  [...]

Sean> I run everything over a VPN, so everything going to my servers
Sean> is secure, and things going to public sites or otherwise not
Sean> going to our servers is only inspectable from my servers to the
Sean> final destination.

Hm.  And the 2x cost going in and out of your vault doesn't start to
sting after a while?

I guess I'm just greedy; I'd like a solution where my "sensitive
stuff" (e-mail, mostly) is handled securely, and bulk stuff (linux ISO
images, mp3 files) comes to me directly in the clear.

My current solution is SSHing to scrye and reading my mail there;
financial web sites are mostly competent HTTPS.  When I'm on public
wi-fi nets, I make sure that I have a firewall up.

I don't really know what to say about concerns of traffic analysis,
but the same could be said for your solution -- unless your vault has
a sufficient variety of traffic that you can anonymize your packets
there.

t.


From jafo at tummy.com  Mon Jan 23 05:31:45 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:31:45 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <g7j8rjrem.fsf@brand.scrye.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
	<20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com> <g7j8rjrem.fsf@brand.scrye.com>
Message-ID: <20060123123145.GL3166@tummy.com>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 01:10:41AM -0700, Tkil wrote:
>Hm.  And the 2x cost going in and out of your vault doesn't start to
>sting after a while?

Not really.  I was worried about that before I started doing it, but I
really don't find that I am passing that much data.  I could set up a route
to a server if I'm doing a big download, but I rarely do that.

>I guess I'm just greedy; I'd like a solution where my "sensitive
>stuff" (e-mail, mostly) is handled securely, and bulk stuff (linux ISO
>images, mp3 files) comes to me directly in the clear.

Then learn the joys of Linux fwmark routing to only route particular
protocols over the VPN.

>I don't really know what to say about concerns of traffic analysis,
>but the same could be said for your solution -- unless your vault has
>a sufficient variety of traffic that you can anonymize your packets
>there.

I certainly trust it more than some random coffee shop or the like...

Thanks,
Sean
-- 
 A "fuddish" is when you *REALLY* like Looney Toons.
Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
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      Back off man. I'm a scientist.   http://HackingSociety.org/



From perrin at apotheon.com  Mon Jan 23 10:14:22 2006
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:14:22 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <20060123123145.GL3166@tummy.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<200601212048.34897.wt@penguintechs.com>
	<20060122215214.GA14240@tummy.com> <g7j8rjrem.fsf@brand.scrye.com>
	<20060123123145.GL3166@tummy.com>
Message-ID: <20060123171422.GC30680@apotheon.com>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:31:45AM -0700, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> -- 
>  A "fuddish" is when you *REALLY* like Looney Toons.

I thought a "fuddish" was an obsessive interest in Microsoft marketing.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ CCD CopyWrite | http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
"The ability to quote is a serviceable
substitute for wit." - W. Somerset Maugham


From wt at penguintechs.com  Mon Jan 23 11:43:05 2006
From: wt at penguintechs.com (Warren Turkal)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:43:05 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] My new program: wifiroamd.
In-Reply-To: <20060123171422.GC30680@apotheon.com>
References: <20060121200519.GA23982@tummy.com>
	<20060123123145.GL3166@tummy.com>
	<20060123171422.GC30680@apotheon.com>
Message-ID: <200601231143.05510.wt@penguintechs.com>

On Monday 23 January 2006 10:14, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:31:45AM -0700, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> > --
> >  A "fuddish" is when you *REALLY* like Looney Toons.
>
> I thought a "fuddish" was an obsessive interest in Microsoft marketing.

*rimshot*

wt
-- 
Warren Turkal, Research Associate III
Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Research
http://www.atmos.colostate.edu/


From swarren at wwwdotorg.org  Sat Jan 28 15:33:21 2006
From: swarren at wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:33:21 -0700
Subject: [NCLUG] 19" monitor for free
Message-ID: <1138487604.12790.TMDA@tmda.severn.wwwdotorg.org>

I'm looking to get rid of a KDS VS-195e 19" CRT monitor. It has just a 
regular VGA D15 cable/connector.

We've been running it at 1024x768 for quite a while without problems. I 
believe it'll go to a higher resolution without issues, but haven't 
tried it.

You can come pickup in Fort Collins Drake/Taft area, or I can lug it to 
an NCLUG/hacking-society meeting if you want.

Let me know - first come first served:-) If you want to donate cash to 
my food eating habit, I won't complain!

-- 
Stephen Warren, Software Engineer, NVIDIA, Fort Collins, CO
swarren at wwwdotorg.org     http://www.wwwdotorg.org/pgp.html
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From jvnn at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 28 17:14:00 2006
From: jvnn at yahoo.com (Joel Nevison)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:14:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NCLUG] 19" monitor for free
In-Reply-To: <1138487604.12790.TMDA@tmda.severn.wwwdotorg.org>
Message-ID: <20060129001400.58232.qmail@web31903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'd sure like to go up from my 17".
When can I pick it up?

Thanks - Joel

--- Stephen Warren <swarren at wwwdotorg.org> wrote:

> I'm looking to get rid of a KDS VS-195e 19" CRT
> monitor. It has just a 
> regular VGA D15 cable/connector.
> 
> We've been running it at 1024x768 for quite a while
> without problems. I 
> believe it'll go to a higher resolution without
> issues, but haven't 
> tried it.
> 
> You can come pickup in Fort Collins Drake/Taft area,
> or I can lug it to 
> an NCLUG/hacking-society meeting if you want.
> 
> Let me know - first come first served:-) If you want
> to donate cash to 
> my food eating habit, I won't complain!
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Warren, Software Engineer, NVIDIA, Fort
> Collins, CO
> swarren at wwwdotorg.org    
> http://www.wwwdotorg.org/pgp.html
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From jafo at tummy.com  Sun Jan 29 12:10:44 2006
From: jafo at tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:10:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [NCLUG] ANN: NCLUG Hacking Society, January 31, 2006
Message-ID: <20060129191044.58A988B5CD@guin.tummy.com>

   Dinner: The Crown Pub, 7pm.
   Meeting: Bean Cycle Coffee Shop, 144 N College Ave, 8pm

This Tuesday from 8pm to 11pm we will be having another installment of the
Hacking Society.  At 7pm we'll be gathering at a restaurant for dinner,
then heading over to the Bean Cycle at 8pm for the main event.

We will be meeting for dinner at 7pm at The Crown Pub, a block south of the
Bean Cycle on College.

The goal of the Hacking Society is to foster geek community-building
through the shared experience of hacking. Of course, by "hacking",
I mean the more historic meaning of working on interesting projects
(Jargon File "hack" entry, sense 6). Not the "script kiddies trying to
compromise boxes" meaning which has become what most people think of in
relation to the term.

It's meant to be a sacred place full of positive hacking energy, if you
will.  Hacking by osmosis...

Hacking Society is primarily meant for you to come and work on your own
projects, as opposed to soliciting others to solve your problems (which is
usually more what goes on at an Install Fest or at the main NCLUG
meetings).

More information on Hacking Society, including some ideas for projects to
work on there, can be found at:

   http://www.hackingsociety.org/

Sean
-- 
 What no spouse of a programmer can ever understand is that a programmer is
 working when he's staring out the window.
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python