[NCLUG] Ousting Exchange

Jeffrey D. Means meaje at meanspc.com
Mon May 1 14:21:31 MDT 2006

Take a look at the groupware product opengroupware, it is getting close
to being a replacement for Exchange($)


On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 12:15 -0600, DJ Eshelman wrote:

> Good god, I've let loose a monster with this thread, haven't I?  Not that it
> isn't all important - but I think in general everyone can agree that with a
> Windows-based server you're locked into a bad cycle every few years but with
> Linux it may just be as simple as upgrading the Kernel and a few other
> supporting packages.  For me, it's totally about ease of doing just that -
> which honestly has kept Linux out of the SMB market in the past 5 years.
> It's depressing, but what can you do.  Aside from our web, DNS and email
> servers, we now have exactly 0 clients using Linux for any kind of business
> critical functions and it's depressing...
> I don't know how many of you out there are in these situations - but
> Microsoft has made things pretty darn easy when it comes to things like
> Active Directory and Exchange.  Administration has become extremely simple
> to where you don't have to be a sysadmin to be a ... well, to be a
> sysadmin.
> I've just not been seeing the Linux community respond to this and it's a
> real shame!  I mean, we had an edge 5 years ago, and maybe I'm wrong on this
> - but it really seems like once people caught on to how easy it is to
> integrate Active Directory and Exchange, Novell and whatever flavor of *nix
> servers just got the boot in favor of this easier administration and
> integration with standard apps.  Maybe I'm soapboxing too much here, but if
> the community wants to be taken seriously in this market there needs to be
> some serious work done on the front-end technologies to go with the very
> solid back-end of the Linux kernel.  I think about it every time I reboot a
> Windows 2003 server because the Virtual memory has over-fragmented and the
> system is running at a crawl.  Microsoft is winning the battle not because
> of a superior back end- but because of their front-end!
> So, back to my original question - how can we, as Linux supporters,
> respond?  What is out there to compete?
> -DJ
> On 4/29/06, Sean Reifschneider <jafo at tummy.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:50:48PM -0700, Matt Taggart wrote:
> > >As dannf already pointed out, the above are wrong.
> >
> > Good to know, I was wrong about that.  A year should be plenty of time to
> > migrate to the newer version.
> >
> > >I don't understand this sentence. How is this different from,
> > >
> > >"You have to deploy RHEL3 until RHEL4 is released, and you have very
> > little
> > >time to test RHEL4 until RHEL4 actually comes out."
> >
> > Because if you are running RHEL3 and they roll RHEL4, you have about 8
> > years to upgrade to RHEL4 before you will no longer have security updates.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sean
> > --
> > Nothing like a river-boat cruise at 3am to make a person realize how
> > great life can be - as long as they have a boat.  -- A. Wyskowski, 2002
> > Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
> > tummy.com, ltd. - Linux Consulting since 1995: Ask me about High
> > Availability
> >
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