[NCLUG] more than 7 email ids with @Home?

[Chris Wolney]

I have @Home, and have studied the AUP... As you can imagine, I think it's
just a license to pull the plug on you if you're doing something they don't
like.  Technically, the Napster client could be considered a "server", but
they don't get all over those people.  And those are high-bandwidth users,
for sure...

In looking at my syslogs, it seems the only thing @Home looks for is news
servers.  I have heard this this was an agreement between @Home and the user
community to get a UDP (usenet death penalty) lifted, due to uninformed
users running news servers that could be exploited and used to relay SPAM
and other crap.

I can tell you this:  I was going to do a full-boat webpage, DNS hosting,
and e-mail on the cable modem but decided against it.  I just used my @Home
WebSpace for my webpage (I know, I know, the lack of scripting ability
sucks, and I would love to have it interface with my SQL server to do
various Cool Things) and have ZoneEdit manage/foreward my domain name and
mail.  I still do have a "private" web and ftp server on the wire, and have
sent quite a bit of data back and forth (ie. entire albums of MP3's I rip at
home and want at work) and haven't heard any fussing from @Home.

Of course, they could whack my connection at any time based on the AUP.  I
think as long as we're low key, we should be cool.  If they want to start
managing their network, I'd like to see them start with the 30-40 "subseven"
scans I get a week... :-)

-Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Herrington" <daniel.herrington at home.com>
To: <nclug at nclug.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [NCLUG] more than 7 email ids with @Home?


> Benson,
>
> Thanks for the info.  Someone pointed out a possible problem with the
> inclusiveness of the user agreement, however, with regards to "no
> servers."  Is my PC a mail "server" when it sends out an email?  If
> so, then isn't everyone who sends email out running a mail server?
> Please let me know if this is a correct assumption.
>
> Assuming that the first assumption is correct, the next question I
> would ask is: If the agreement clause about "no servers" is intended
> to keep people from sucking up upload bandwidth, e.g. with ftp or http
> servers, and if it's completely legitimate in MS Outlook to set up
> mail forwarding to multiple recipients, then is it still in accordance
> with the principles of the user agreement to use something like
> "mailman" to do a smarter job of forwarding the email?  A week or so
> ago I set up an email id with automatic forwarding to a small list of
> recipients, but I found that it was too insecure (unbeknownst to me, I
> ended up automatically forwarding the "Snow White..." virus that
> someone unknowingly sent to my list alias).
>
> Now I would assume that if I make a large forwarding list, and I have
> lots of traffic, then I am probably violating the intent of the user
> agreement.  However, if my first assumption is true, then I'm already
> violating it in the same way without the mailing list.
>
> Here's a secondary question.  If I set up a webcam and have it (using
> an ftp client, not a server) upload a new jpeg continuously to my
> webspace on @Home's server, am I violating the agreement?
>
> What do you think?  Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks again,
>    Daniel
>
>
> => Replying to Benson Chow's message, "Re: [NCLUG] more than 7 email ids
with @Home?" (Mar 1):
>  > Yes, it's possible.  And it works.  Make sure you set your sendmail.cw
>  > properly (add your hostname in it) or set yuor hostname to your ugly
one
>  > and restart sendmail.  Of course that's if you're using sendmail as
your
>  > mta.
>  >
>  > But you're not "allowed" to do that from the @home user agreement
>  > following the clause "No Servers".  Which is why I decided to go DSL at
>  > higher cost and lower bandwidth...
>  >
>  > -bc
>  >
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