[NCLUG] Planning for Install Fest and Demo Day, Saturday November 3rd

paul hansen hansenp at CS.ColoState.EDU
Thu Oct 25 15:06:34 MDT 2001


Oops, sorry. Mike had a much better reply than mine. I should have read
through all my mail before replying. 

Also, I meant "if this thread continues" not "if this threat
continues" ;-)

Hope to see all the CSU LUGers at the meeting tonight.

  --P.



On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, paul hansen wrote:

> 
> 
> Kennan,
> 
> It's just another way for ACNS to cover their costs. A few years ago they
> didn't charge for modem accounts and then they pissed off a lot of
> students by having a per semester charge -- still lower than an ISP
> account -- which had the nice effect of cleaning up the modem queues :-))
> 
> Anyway, for this port activation it is the standard policy of Lory Student
> Center. I don't think it is aimed so much at student organizations as much
> as the outside corporations which frequently use the facilities.
> 
> I'm sure that it is trivial to turn on the port.
> 
> BTW, if this threat continues, can we please move it over to the LUG of
> CSU mailing list. I'm sure the NCLUG chaps do not care about CSU issues.
>   :-))
> 
>   --Paul
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Kennan Blehm wrote:
> 
> > Well said. I'd like to know what exactly is involved with ACNS or whatever
> > in activating an access point, and why they think they can justify
> > charging 25 dollars for the day.
> > 
> > I actually had to pay 50 dollars to have the point activated in my dorm
> > room. And that was just one point. My roomate had to pay 50 dollars as
> > well. Think aboot it. 100 dollars per room every year. We're talking about
> > almost 50,000 + dollars made at the beginning of the year just activating
> > network points.
> > 
> > Can any network guru's out here let me know if this is justified. I mean,
> > I think it should be covered in the ungodly amount we pay for tuition,
> > fees, room and board. I *really* hope this isn't another, "well, the
> > people out there don't know any better, so we can charge whatever we want"
> > scenario.
> > 
> > -Kennan
> > 
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, shaggydan wrote:
> > 
> > > So, lemme get this streight: We all go to the university, we pay our
> > > tuition and our student fees, we're an official club of CSU yet we have to
> > > pay $25 for one lousey internet port?
> > >
> > > I'm not opposed to contributing money for it if necessary but I really
> > > think it's bad form for the University not to simply give us what costs
> > > them next to nothing for one afternoon.
> > >
> > > I spent a year in Greely at UNC and we had a president at that Univerity
> > > called Hank Brown. Hank should never have had anything to do with
> > > education because he tried to streamline the school and turn it into a
> > > profit-making organization. However, the student council fought him and
> > > they've now got him backed into such a corner that he can't even lift his
> > > finger without wide spread student approval.
> > >
> > > Anybody ever wondered what the ASCSU does for us? We certainly pay a few
> > > fees for it but so far I've not seen the benifit and I think they should
> > > be out there protecting us from this sort of (admitedly small-scale)
> > > reeming. I think it's time we started going to those meetings because
> > > student council can do a LOT to make the school more accountable and make
> > > them treat the students better.
> > >
> > > _____________________________________
> > > Most men do not sing, most men cannot sing, most men will not stay where
> > > others are singing if it be continued more than two hours. Note that.
> > > 						--Mark Twain
> > >
> > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, paul hansen wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll take care of getting CSU covered -- flyers, notices to professors,
> > > > informing the CIS department (flyers and profs).
> > > >
> > > > A quick note, the network is costing us $25. Would it be cool if we all
> > > > contributed $1 to cover this?
> > > >
> > > > I will also help in setting up and work one of the install stations. I'm
> > > > going to talk to some other guys about helping with installs. I will
> > > > update on this in the next couple of days.
> > > >
> > > > I'm downloading Redhat 7.2 right now, so I can provide those ISOs. Is
> > > > someone going to be able to burn cds on request, or should we bring some
> > > > burned cds?
> > > >
> > > > We are going to have a special LUG of CSU meeting this week, so hopefully
> > > > I can enlist a lot more help -- I should have news on Friday about this.
> > > >
> > > >    --Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Matt Taggart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Taggart writes...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi LUGgers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks to Paul Hansen we have Rooms 205 and 203 of the Lory Student Center
> > > > > > reserved on Saturday November 3, 2001. The event will be from noon-4pm with
> > > > > > setup starting at 10am. We need to finalize what were doing, here are some
> > > > > > notes. Things without names need volunteers and some things could use more
> > > > > > than one volunteer especially help with installs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless a few more people sign up to help we're not going to be able to pull
> > > > > this event off. If you can help at all, please reply and sign up for some
> > > > > things.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matt Taggart
> > > > > matt at lackof.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > - Advertising
> > > > > >    - Design flyers
> > > > > >    - CSU
> > > > > >      - hang flyers
> > > > > >        - CS
> > > > > >        - Student Center
> > > > > >        - Clark
> > > > > >      - Professors tell their classes
> > > > > >      - Collegian Ad
> > > > > >      - chalk in the plaza the week before
> > > > > >    - HP (taggart)
> > > > > >    - Tell your cow orkers
> > > > > > - Greeting table
> > > > > >     - staffing
> > > > > >       - noon-1pm
> > > > > >       - 1pm-2pm
> > > > > >       - 2pm-3pm
> > > > > >       - 3pm-4pm
> > > > > >     - banner (taggart)
> > > > > >     - install signup sheet
> > > > > >     - 150 raffle tickets(assuming we have a one, otherwise
> > > > > >           some way to count people)
> > > > > >     - 150 general info flyers with lug URLs, email, meeting times
> > > > > > - Network
> > > > > >     - Lory Student Center will provide one network drop/IP.
> > > > > >     - Firewall/masq/dhcp/squid box (Kennan? maybe tummy)
> > > > > >     - Network switches (taggart)
> > > > > >     - Network cable (taggart)
> > > > > >     - wireless access point (taggart)
> > > > > > - Demos
> > > > > >     - mail cluster (jafo)
> > > > > >     - DVDs on Linux (alstone)
> > > > > >     - hppa-linux (willy)
> > > > > >     - ia64-linux (aw)
> > > > > >     - alpha-linux
> > > > > >     - ppc-linux (powerbook guy?)
> > > > > >     - Linux robot? (Daniel H.)
> > > > > >     - OpenOffice
> > > > > >     - Quicken Type apps
> > > > > >     - Other things?
> > > > > > - Install stuff
> > > > > >     - staffing
> > > > > >       - noon-1pm () () ()
> > > > > >       - 1pm-2pm  () () ()
> > > > > >       - 2pm-3pm  () () ()
> > > > > >       - 3pm-4pm  () () ()
> > > > > >     - copies of all the latest ISOs to hand out
> > > > > >     - power strips and extension cables (taggart)
> > > > > >     - "install stations" monitors, keyboards, mice
> > > > > > - Handouts (in addition to the flyer at the door)
> > > > > >     - Try to get stuff from
> > > > > >       - Ximian (taggart)
> > > > > >       - RedHat
> > > > > >       - SuSE
> > > > > >       - OSDL
> > > > > >       - Loki (Ed)
> > > > > >       - IBM (Ed)
> > > > > >       - etc.
> > > > > >     - tummy?
> > > > > >     - lwn? (yes I know)
> > > > > > - Other
> > > > > >     - soda
> > > > > >     - popcorn/pretzels/etc
> > > > > >     - breakfast for those setting up (taggart)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Kennan Blehm					   kmblehm at sigkill.com
> > "I am an echo of the eternal cry of, 'Let there be!'" Children of Eden
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