With RedHat's newer releases, 'ls' only sorts the good ol' fashioned way if $LANG is set to "C" (as opposed to the now default of "en_US"). I was wondering if there were any gotchas anyone has encountered in just setting LANG=C to stay sane. -- Mike Loseke | Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately mike at verinet.com | it kills all its pupils. -- Hector Berlioz