[NCLUG] Desire suggestions for college laptop

[Kevin]

Onyx,

Onyx wrote:
> BJ,
> Another drawing program similar to Visio is the DIA project under  
> GNOME.org .  It is an open source project (released under the GPL  
> license) and an excellent piece of software!  The application runs on  
> both Windozzze and OS X.  Mac users can get the application through  the 
> ports at darwinports.org .  I used DIA extensively through  college for 
> all my CS classes that required all form of diagrams.

   I'll look into that one.

thanks,
DLC

> 
>         ---> Onyx
> 
> On Jun 23, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
> 
>> BJ,
>>
>>   A Mac alternative for Visio is ConceptDraw.  Pretty cool, quite
>> flexible and much cheaper.  I've used it a lot when doing graphics
>> for my books.  To get 15" you'd have to go with the Powerbook, the
>> iBooks stop at 14.2", the PowerBooks are 15" and 17".  Oh yeah,
>> CIS groups dearly love their VB junk.  There is a Basic compiler
>> that has plugins for Windoze and Mac (and I think Linux), but I forget
>> its name...
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> DLC
>>
>> BJ Tiemessen wrote:
>>
>>> Now don't get me wrong I would own an iBook if I had the money. My  
>>> buddy just traded in his Dell Insperon for an iBook and I love it.  
>>> Tiger is awesome and his battery lasts 3-4 times longer than mine.  
>>> If I stick to classes in the Computer Science department I usually  
>>> don't run into any problems because we do almost everything under  
>>> Linux. When I go to other departments to take classes is when I  run 
>>> into conflicts. The one program that I use the most that is  only 
>>> Windoze (as far as I know) is Visio. I have tried many  different 
>>> programs for UML, flow charts, making GUI templates,  etc. but have 
>>> not found anything I like as much as Visio. I took 3  classes in CIS 
>>> that used Visual Basic, .Net and Access, and there  a few programs I 
>>> have used for research that where written just  for Windoze, but I 
>>> have also used programs for research that will  only run on Linux. 
>>> Every once in a while I like to play some  online games that are only 
>>> available for Windoze (although I plan  to try out Winex). I am sure 
>>> one of you would point out that if a  specific program is required 
>>> for a class that there will be a  computer lab available to use with 
>>> that program, but many times I  prefer to go home and work instead of 
>>> spending all night in a  computer lab. So yes for most tasks it does 
>>> not matter what OS is  used.
>>> Now that I am writing this I do remeber the last requirement I had  
>>> when I was looking for my laptop. I wanted a screen no smaller  than 
>>> 15", I hate staring at a little monitor.
>>> BJ
>>> Paul Wehr wrote:
>>>
>>>>> At 2:46 PM -0600 23/06/2005, BJ Tiemessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately many of the programs used in a college environment  
>>>>> only run on Windoze so this ruled out the Apple iBook.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you please elaborate on this point and provide a sense as  to 
>>>>> the names of some of the *many* programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, please elaborate. Certainly there are multiple programs  
>>>> that run on Linux that suffice for most general-studies programs  at 
>>>> the university level. For that matter many (no cost programs)  that 
>>>> run on Mac OS X that can masquerade as Windoze programs, not  
>>>> counting M$ (cost programs) that--well--behave as Windoze programs.
>>>>
>>>> I know of only too many programs, specifically programmed to work  
>>>> in the M$ environment, that simply _don't_ work. I don't have any  
>>>> faith in programmers using the M$ environment or the M$ (make a  
>>>> quick buck) environment itself. I'm thinking here of the  databases 
>>>> put together by huge database companies. "You'll be up  and running 
>>>> in a year," pronounced five years ago and they are  still working on 
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
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