[NCLUG] Looking at programming languages...

Dennis Clark dlc at frii.com
Wed Jan 16 11:39:57 MST 2008


How about "Squeak"?  It is a more modern version of Smalltalk and it is OO
and cross platform.  There is a large user base and its been around a
while.

DLC

> I would like some opinions.   I am going to be doing some new
> development, as well as teaching some people who know nothing about
> programming some basics of programming.
>
> Here are my issues:
> PERL - Available everywhere, easy to write.  The GUI stuff, though is
> kind of convoluted for n00b's, and it tends to be a write only
> language.   You can write it, but you can't really go back and see
> what you did.
>
> Ruby - The language is brilliant.   It does everything just as you
> would want and expect.   However, it is a pig at runtime, and the
> runtime tends to have issues like sucking up every available bit of
> RAM and CPU when you least expect it.   I have not done any GUI stuff
> with it.  OO conceptually is a little advanced for beginners.
>
> Gambas - GUI is easy, you can easily connect code to GUI artifacts.
> However, it is not cross platform, and does not really seem to have
> enough people using it to really reach critical mass.
>
> What I want is something I can write a real application in, something
> robust enough for real corporate use.  It needs to be cross platform,
> at least Linux and Windows, since I use Linux, but the desktops for
> deployment may have Windows.  I would also like to be able to use it
> (once I get the hang of it) to teach others the basics, but show them
> that as they improve their skills, they can use this for real things,
> since I have already done so.   I have been a programmer since the
> dawn of time, and have worked in many languages on many platforms, so
> picking up a new one is not really a bad thing.
>
> Any suggestions you have for languages and where to get started on
> them would be great.  Also, since I will need to do GUI applications
> eventually with it, which toolkits may be nice as well as which tools
> to build the GUI.   I tend to like to use GUI tools to build GUI's,
> but then just a text editor, maybe with syntax highlighting, for
> actual code.   A full blown IDE is not that important, although a step
> debugger is nice.
>
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Dennis Clark
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