[NCLUG] Looking at programming languages...

[Bamm Visscher]

Durn it, grabbed the wrong link.

This was off from a tcl mailing list when the SimCity project for OLPC
was on Slashdot.  If you believe in the OLPC project, that his
comments build a pretty compelling reason for teaching Python.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/19f96aed1b74fe5e

Bammkkkk


On Jan 16, 2008 2:00 PM, Bamm Visscher <bamm.visscher at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought this was interesting.
>
>
> http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/129
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 11:05 AM,  <grant at amadensor.com> wrote:
> > I would like some opinions.   I am going to be doing some new
> > development, as well as teaching some people who know nothing about
> > programming some basics of programming.
> >
> > Here are my issues:
> > PERL - Available everywhere, easy to write.  The GUI stuff, though is
> > kind of convoluted for n00b's, and it tends to be a write only
> > language.   You can write it, but you can't really go back and see
> > what you did.
> >
> > Ruby - The language is brilliant.   It does everything just as you
> > would want and expect.   However, it is a pig at runtime, and the
> > runtime tends to have issues like sucking up every available bit of
> > RAM and CPU when you least expect it.   I have not done any GUI stuff
> > with it.  OO conceptually is a little advanced for beginners.
> >
> > Gambas - GUI is easy, you can easily connect code to GUI artifacts.
> > However, it is not cross platform, and does not really seem to have
> > enough people using it to really reach critical mass.
> >
> > What I want is something I can write a real application in, something
> > robust enough for real corporate use.  It needs to be cross platform,
> > at least Linux and Windows, since I use Linux, but the desktops for
> > deployment may have Windows.  I would also like to be able to use it
> > (once I get the hang of it) to teach others the basics, but show them
> > that as they improve their skills, they can use this for real things,
> > since I have already done so.   I have been a programmer since the
> > dawn of time, and have worked in many languages on many platforms, so
> > picking up a new one is not really a bad thing.
> >
> > Any suggestions you have for languages and where to get started on
> > them would be great.  Also, since I will need to do GUI applications
> > eventually with it, which toolkits may be nice as well as which tools
> > to build the GUI.   I tend to like to use GUI tools to build GUI's,
> > but then just a text editor, maybe with syntax highlighting, for
> > actual code.   A full blown IDE is not that important, although a step
> > debugger is nice.
> >
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