Santa brought me a new laptop

Phil Marsh microcraftx at gmail.com
Tue Dec 31 01:37:46 UTC 2024


Hi Spiros,
Is the USB thumb ISO install drive UEFI bootable? I'm a bit of an amateur
and I might have missed it? A lot of these newer machines cannot boot via
legacy booting and therefore require that the USB installation drive be
UEFI-bootable.
I would also turn off secure boot too. My newer servers boot only UEFI.
Annoying, but I can work with that and also can make drives UEFI bootable
when I restore OS backups.
Please kindly bring your laptop to the Hackers' meeting tomorrow or the
following week. I'll be back for the Jan 7, Hackers' meeting.
Best,
Phil

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 4:08 PM spiros thanasoulas via NCLUG <
nclug at nclug.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 03:40:26PM -0700, Bill Thorson wrote:
> > NCLUGers,
> >
> > Santa brought me a new Lenovo Ideapad 5x 14" Touchscreen Laptop <
> https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideapad-5x-14-2-in-1-touchscreen-laptop-qualcomm-snapdragon-x-plus-oled-1920-x-1200-windows-11-copilot+-pc.product.4000305603.html
> >.
> > Santa's buying points at CostCO were:
> >
> >  * $150 off the regular price till Dec 25
> >  * 90 day return for any reason if I don't like it (doesn't do Linux
> well).
> >  * 2yr warranty
> >
> >
> > I have been using Linux on my desktops/laptops since Softlanding Linux
> > System (SLS) in about 1993.  I haven't touched any Windows since about
> > Windows 95 in 2000.  I'm working on a desktop application that I want to
> > eventually work on Linux, Windows, and MacOS. Therefore, I've decided to
> > maybe dual boot this laptop so I can play with and test the future
> Windows
> > version of my app. Of course the default boot OS will be Linux.  I can go
> > into the boot menu if I want Windoz.
> >
> > I decided to try Debian Live (debian-live-12.8.0-amd64-mate.iso) on a USB
> > stick to see how it will run on the new hardware.  Then, if good I can
> maybe
> > use the included Calamares installer to install.  I just dd'd that image
> to
> > the thumb drive so it's in iso9660 format. Linux has no problem mounting
> it.
> could it be that the image is not EFI based?
> or maybe in the bios there is a setting to enable non-uefi boot modes?
> if that is the case i would also keep secure boot turned off cause
> i think that secure boot would imply efi mode. or just make sure you
> have an EFI based debian image.
>
> also keep in mind that the performance of the debian live when it is
> touching the "disk" (your thumbdrive) should be horrible under normal
> conditions. don't let that deter you ;)
>
>
> >
> > Now's where the complications are occurring for this old-timer:
> >
> >  * Boot from USB:  I got into the boot menu (F12) and it doesn't see
> >    the drive.  I found the BIOS menu (F2) and it says USB Boot is
> Enabled.
> >  * In BIOS turned off secure boot but wouldn't boot without a 48 did
> >    get BitLocker recovery key.  I turned secure boot turned back on.
> >  * In Windoz turned off BitLocker and decrypted the disk. Re-entered
> >    BIOS and turned off secure boot again.  This time it doesn't
> >    complain about recovery key at all but the Boot menu still doesn't
> >    see the USB disk.
> >
> >
> > Could this be because it's in the iso format?  Windoz Disk Management
> tool
> > says it's "29.30 GB RAW; Healthy (Active, Primary Partition)" whatever
> that
> > means.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated!
> >
> > Bill
>
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