<div id="edo-message"><div><div>I really wish there was an easy way to look at df without having all the snapd and cgroup stuff showing up. I know there's a -x [fstype] switch but still this should be the default to have the 'Virtual' filesystems not display on a standard df list. </div><div><br></div><div>My $0.01...</div><div id="edo-signature"><pre><div>---</div><div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">Jeffrey D. Means</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">Consultant, MeansPC</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px; white-space: normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">+1(970)308-1298 | jeff@meanspc.com</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">https://www.meanspc.com/</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">6803 Antigua Dr. #72,</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 16px;">Fort Collins, CO 80525-6946</span></div></div></pre></div></div></div><div id="edo-original"><div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 1ex 0 0 0 !important; border-left: 1px #ccc solid !important; padding-left: 0.4ex !important;"><div id="edo-meta">On Jun 8, 2022 at 13:47, Brian Sturgill <<a href="mailto:bsturgill@ataman.com">bsturgill@ataman.com</a>> wrote: <br><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hmmm... why would I have a whole new bizarre name to handle logical volumes?<br></div><div>Besides, logical volumes have been around for a very long time.</div><div>What sort of person thinks: /dev/mapper/dobby--vg-root<br></div><div>Is even marginally a good device name?<br></div><div>What happens if I rename "dobby" to "winky"?<br></div><div><br></div><div>As to "snaps ... don't pollute the system". It looks like they've polluted my system to me.<br></div><div>Seriously, Ubuntu keeps putting more and more things in snaps.<br></div><div>My list is only that small because I have been consciously removing snaps when I can.<br></div><div>If every major package was in a snap there would be hundreds of "df" entries.<br></div><div>Why would anyone think this is a good idea?<br><br></div><div>And
who would design a modern packaging system that makes you stop running
the app before it can be upgraded? Imagine what it would be like once
there are hundreds of snaps installed!<br></div><div>All of them tell you to exit the app for upgrade. At least Windows and MacOS only make me reboot.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Look carefully at the "disk free" output... not one of them is an actual disk device.<br></div><div>This is worse than systemd (which is responsible for /run/user/1000).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Brian</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 1:13 PM Grant Johnson <<a href="mailto:grant@amadensor.com">grant@amadensor.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>The dev mapper stuff is logical volumes, so you can add and rearrange storage easier. All of the snap things are snap applications you have installed, they have their own little fake file systems so that they don't pollute the system.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 8, 2022 1:01:21 PM MDT, Brian Sturgill <<a href="mailto:bsturgill@ataman.com" target="_blank">bsturgill@ataman.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">For years I thought I was running Linux... but I just ran "df" and clearly someone has replaced Linux with another operating system!<br><br>brian@dobby:~$ df<br>Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on<br>udev 1927400 0 1927400 0% /dev<br>tmpfs 394484 1368 393116 1% /run<br>/dev/mapper/dobby--vg-root 110774660 13632712 91471856 13% /<br>tmpfs 1972412 0 1972412 0% /dev/shm<br>tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock<br>tmpfs 1972412 0 1972412 0% /sys/fs/cgroup<br>/dev/loop0 56960 56960 0 100% /snap/core18/2344<br>/dev/loop3 63488 63488 0 100% /snap/core20/1518<br>/dev/loop2 56960 56960 0 100% /snap/core18/2409<br>/dev/loop1 63488 63488 0 100% /snap/core20/1494<br>/dev/loop5 69632 69632 0 100% /snap/lxd/22526<br>/dev/loop4 69504 69504 0 100% /snap/lxd/22753<br>/dev/loop6 48128 48128 0 100% /snap/snapd/16010<br>/dev/loop7 45824 45824 0 100% /snap/snapd/15904<br>tmpfs 394480 0 394480 0% /run/user/1000<br><div><br></div><div>Seriously, what kind of device is /dev/mapper/dobby--vg-root?<br><br></div><div>Just last week, it was constantly badgering me to exit Firefox to upgrade its snap.<br></div><div>It said I had to do so within 12 days if I wanted to "avoid disruption".<br></div><div>Sounded like some kind of organized crime racket.<br></div><div>I exited, waited, it complained again, (repeat 5 times)... finally told snap to upgrade it</div><div>manually, but cannot remember what worked... I know it took like half an hour to figure it out.<br></div><div>Snap upgrade is too easy of course.<br><br></div><div>Really, I get less crap than this from Windows or MacOS.<br><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Brian</div><div> <br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><div style="white-space:pre-wrap"><div>-- <br>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Brian</div><div> <br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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