[NCLUG] New linux server
Chris Funk
chris at goldencoast.com
Fri Feb 1 10:03:29 MST 2002
Thanks for all the info.
Still not sure which I'll go with, but I've got several months of testing to
decide. :-)
I didn't realize there was so much passion about MTA's. '-) Glad I didn't
ask which distro to go with, or if I should use VI or Emacs. :-)
Thanks again
Chris Funk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dwyer" <mdwyer at sixthdimension.com>
To: <nclug at nclug.org>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [NCLUG] New linux server
> Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:38:55PM -0800, J. Paul Reed wrote:
> > >Conveniently, you didn't address any of *those* concerns.
> >
> > Of course not... They include "technical reasoning" such as "I don't
> > like the way qmail throws hundreds of little .qmail files around (I know
> > about fastforward, it doesn't count)"...
>
> Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Alright, Sean: Go to Colorado. Paul: Go to
> California. You two apparently can't be trusted to be in the same
> state. :D
>
> For what it is worth, I don't like Q-Mail. I don't like the .files,
> because they lack the self-documentation that a single file has. Sean
> has repeatedly told me that these make it easier to do automated admin
> this way, and I can see where that would be true, but I still prefer the
> good ol' forward scripts. I've never had to deal with more that 50
> users, and didn't need automated tools. Grep and Sed work just fine.
> The QMail logs are somewhat difficult to read. The configs are
> scattered EVERYWHERE. Oh, and DJB tends to annoy me. His ideas are
> good, and very well-meaning. But he could certainly use a PR person to
> talk for him...
>
> But, all that said, it works. If I had my druthers, I would replace the
> whole mess with Juniper SMTPd in front of Sendmail. But in the mean
> time, it works and works well. A lot of the reasons I hate Qmail can be
> summed up with one word: inexperience. I hate that I have to call up
> Tummy to figure out how to halt my mail queue. If I became a QMail
> expert, I'm sure I would be extolling its power and flexability here,
> too. But since I don't know my way around it, I can just sit back here
> and laugh at the fact that I find Sendmail /easier/ to use...
>
> Oh, and if you *do* use SquirrelMail, you might want to check your
> version:
>
> *** {02.04.014} Cross - SquirrelMail PHP suite multiple vuln's
>
> SquirrelMail PHP Web mail suite prior to version 1.2.3 has been found
> to contain bugs in the handling of JavaScript embedded in HTML tags
> within Web mail. It's possible for an attacker to construct an e-mail
> that could execute arbitrary JavaScript when the user views the
> e-mail. SquirrelMail also passes unfiltered user data to an exec()
> command, thereby allowing an attacker to execute arbitrary command
> line commands.
>
> This vulnerability has been confirmed and corrected in SquirrelMail
> version 1.2.3.
>
> Source: SecurityFocus Bugtraq
> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2002-01/0310.html
> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2002-01/0296.html
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