[NCLUG] New linux server

Chris Funk chris at goldencoast.com
Fri Feb 1 10:03:29 MST 2002


Thanks for all the info.

Still not sure which I'll go with, but I've got several months of testing to
decide. :-)
I didn't realize there was so much passion about MTA's.  '-)  Glad I didn't
ask which distro to go with, or if I should use VI or Emacs. :-)

Thanks again

Chris Funk





----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dwyer" <mdwyer at sixthdimension.com>
To: <nclug at nclug.org>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [NCLUG] New linux server


> Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:38:55PM -0800, J. Paul Reed wrote:
> > >Conveniently, you didn't address any of *those* concerns.
> >
> > Of course not...  They include "technical reasoning" such as "I don't
> > like the way qmail throws hundreds of little .qmail files around (I know
> > about fastforward, it doesn't count)"...
>
> Whoa, whoa, WHOA!  Alright, Sean:  Go to Colorado.  Paul:  Go to
> California.  You two apparently can't be trusted to be in the same
> state.  :D
>
> For what it is worth, I don't like Q-Mail.  I don't like the .files,
> because they lack the self-documentation that a single file has.  Sean
> has repeatedly told me that these make it easier to do automated admin
> this way, and I can see where that would be true, but I still prefer the
> good ol' forward scripts.  I've never had to deal with more that 50
> users, and didn't need automated tools.  Grep and Sed work just fine.
> The QMail logs are somewhat difficult to read.  The configs are
> scattered EVERYWHERE.  Oh, and DJB tends to annoy me.  His ideas are
> good, and very well-meaning.  But he could certainly use a PR person to
> talk for him...
>
> But, all that said, it works.  If I had my druthers, I would replace the
> whole mess with Juniper SMTPd in front of Sendmail.  But in the mean
> time, it works and works well.  A lot of the reasons I hate Qmail can be
> summed up with one word:  inexperience.  I hate that I have to call up
> Tummy to figure out how to halt my mail queue.  If I became a QMail
> expert, I'm sure I would be extolling its power and flexability here,
> too.  But since I don't know my way around it, I can just sit back here
> and laugh at the fact that I find Sendmail /easier/ to use...
>
> Oh, and if you *do* use SquirrelMail, you might want to check your
> version:
>
>  *** {02.04.014} Cross - SquirrelMail PHP suite multiple vuln's
>
>  SquirrelMail PHP Web mail suite prior to version 1.2.3 has been found
>  to contain bugs in the handling of JavaScript embedded in HTML tags
>  within Web mail. It's possible for an attacker to construct an e-mail
>  that could execute arbitrary JavaScript when the user views the
>  e-mail. SquirrelMail also passes unfiltered user data to an exec()
>  command, thereby allowing an attacker to execute arbitrary command
>  line commands.
>
>  This vulnerability has been confirmed and corrected in SquirrelMail
>  version 1.2.3.
>
>  Source: SecurityFocus Bugtraq
>  http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2002-01/0310.html
>  http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2002-01/0296.html
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