[NCLUG] mmmmmmm...spam control

Matthew Wilcox willy at debian.org
Tue Feb 19 14:20:27 MST 2002


On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:40:51PM -0700, bmc wrote:
> I agree. I would never allow that. But, we are no longer in an age where we
> have "criers" on the street corner.

I'm not talking about Town Criers.  I'm talking about, say, the evangelists
who stand in public places and preach their religion.  That's the kind
of freedom of speech your precious constitution was meant to protect.

> And like it or not the internet, the web, etc and all of it components are
> covered under freedom of speech. And are effectively the 21st century
> version of "standing on the street" and sharing your views.

Uhm.  By definition, "The Internet" crosses county, state, national
and jurisdictional boundaries.  Freedom of speech is not a universally
accepted right, much like the USA does not accept a universal right to
safe, nutritious food.  The jurisdictions which do recognise freedom
of speech mostly do not categorise someone running up to you with a
megaphone, following you around all day and night offering to sell you
h0t t33n 4c+i0n, penis size improving drugs and $33 million if you'll
only deposit $100 in their bank accountas `freedom of speech'.

Hell, even the Colorado legislature ruled that spam must be identified
as such.  "But that infringes on my freedom of speech!  I should be
able to send spam without labelling it if i want to" is a lovely piece
of rhetoric but utterly fails to make sense.

> I'm not a proponent of Spam in any way shape or form but I am a proponent of
> the ideals that this country was founded on, and Spam, whether good bad or
> otherwise is a form of free speech. And if the Gov't were ever to try and
> take it away I would fight it tooth and nail. The reason being, if you let
> the Gov't take away parts of your freedoms, they will over time take more.

Then why are you not on the streets protesting the well-known, documented
violations of the Bill of Rights that your government has been practicing
for the last 40 years or more?

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