[NCLUG] users only

[J. Paul Reed]

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Matt Taggart wrote:

> I also hate it nclug posts have blug or clue cc'd and I get "moderated".
> IHMO there are better answers for dealing with spam than limiting open
> discussion.

Out of curiosity, how many posts to NCLUG in the last... oh, let's say 6
months have been from non-members that weren't spammers?

I'd bet that the number isn't very high, if more than 0 at all.

If that is indeed the case, the only "open discussion" you're limiting is
how I can help Price Foofoohead in Nigeria by sending him my bank account
number and how I can use herbal viagra to... be like Bob Dole.

> There is a proposed solution to this problem,
>
> http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html
> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt

The fact that the IETF has a draft on this is pathetic; don't they have
better things to do with their time (like... oh say, revising the SMTP
protocol altogether so spamming is more difficult? I know... easier
said...)

It implies that someone, somewhere was asked "Well, what's *your* claim to
fame," and they just happened to be a member of the IETF, and so a draft on
the subject, we now have (hey, I just saw Episode Two last weekend).

Speaking of which...

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Mike Loseke wrote:

>  end-users have requested a third 'reply' function to make all of this
>  moot, but they, in their wisdom, have not seen the need so it has not
>  been implemented.

Use the source, Mike.

Ultimately, I don't know what the big deal is... I'm a pine user, so I get
asked who I *really* want to reply to, even when there is a reply-to
header.

Having said that, I'm with Mike (C.) on the fact that this is a discussion
list... responses should go back to the list (kinda like open source) and
that users should have to do something specific to get off-list replies.

I also don't have a problem with the poster getting two copies of a reply;
quite the contrary, I see that as a "feature," for two reasons: if I filter
mail from the list into a folder that I don't read all the time (SVLUG), I
can immediately see that something I posted got a response (since a copy is
sitting in my inbox); if I don't filter (like NCLUG), I can quickly see
that something I posted got a response while I'm scanning my inbox because
there are two identicle messages right next to each other, and they stand
out. But that's me, and I'm probably wrong.

We should all be ashamed of ourselves that this meta-thread is the most
rousing discussion we've mustered in the last few weeks. ;-)

Later,
Paul
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