META RE: [NCLUG] Another Job posting

Stephen Queen svq at peakpeak.com
Thu Nov 7 11:48:43 MST 2002


John L. Bass wrote:

>	The discussion of whether or not to allow such posts is 
>	(as always) a greater strain on my oh-so-fragile delete 
>	key than the posts that sparked the debate.
>
>When local employers are involved, directly posting their openings
>without an agency doing the screening, I am much more open to using
>the list for postings. The volume will always remain relatively low,
>and there are no commissions at stake. When the employer isn't looking
>at a large commission, they are generally easier to negotiate a
>salary with - a win-win for both the job seeker and employer.
>
>The problem with this issue is that it can rapidly be the other
>way around once agencies (which generally get big bucks from the
>employers) learn that job posting in this list is fair game. They
>have every incentive to get maximum exposure both attempting to find
>a candidate, and building contact databases, that will generate
>their commissions. Especially where they do not have a sole source
>agreement with the employer. My experience from other lists, is
>that once you have a couple dozen recruiters doing this, there will
>be a steady stream of postings - if that is what NCLUG wants.
>
>If the nclug community thinks that job listing are important right
>now I have many recruiter contacts that I've done business with
>(both as a hiring manager and as a contractor looking for work) in
>the last decade that would probably be happy to give you as many
>job listings as you want in this forum. Most of them have families
>to support too, and would jump to expand their contact data base
>with your resume replies from this readership.
>
>With commissions that are a significant percentage of first year
>salaries, or off-the-top on temporary placements, this is a big
>high dollar business when agencies are involved - it makes sense to
>question providing a free service to a hand select few recruiters
>that can easily make a hundred grand or so from placements off the
>list over a few years. Which is why I suggest making it an open
>playing field so that all our recruiter friends have equal access
>if the readership wants job postings here.
>
>  
>
There is a difference between when an acquaintance calls me regarding a 
job opening that she is aware of and when a head hunter contacts me 
about the same job. This list should be able to discriminate the 
difference as well.

Steve Queen




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