Shorter, > So, how come wireless connect works at the Hacking Society > and fails at Mugs? Here's what I use to connect at HS: $ sudo sh -c "iwconfig wlan0 essid wireless && ifup wlan0" And here's how I connect at various coffee shops: $ sudo sh -c "iwconfig wlan0 essid any && ifup wlan0" Note essid any. Could that be your problem? <>< Tim