[NCLUG] NCLUG Digest, Vol 341, Issue 1

Jamie Leben jleben at i-t-w.com
Tue Jun 19 11:42:16 MDT 2012


Computer Renaissance is still open- they just moved further into the same
shopping center.

I'm also a good local option for inexpensive, basic data recovery steps-
attempting to clone to a healthy drive for example. jleben at i-t-w.com
If it's a mechanical failure, prices at data recovery specialists start at
hundreds, with premier places like ontrack or drivesavers starting at
$1000+  How much is the data worth?

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM, <nclug-request at lists.nclug.org> wrote:

>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Hard drive recovery (Michael Coffman)
>   2. Re: Hard drive recovery (Brent Wilkins)
>   3. Re: Hard drive recovery (Chad Perrin)
>   4. Re: Hard drive recovery (Chris Ernst)
>   5. Re: programming language (Sean Reifschneider)
>   6. Re: Hard drive recovery (F.L. Whiteley)
>   7. Re: Hard drive recovery (Kerry Miller)
>   8. Re: Hard drive recovery (Chad Perrin)
>   9. Re: Hard drive recovery (Michael Coffman)
>  10. Re: Hard drive recovery (Stephen Warren)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:02:41 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Michael Coffman <coffman at ftc.avagotech.com>
> Subject: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: nclug at lists.nclug.org
> Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1206181629280.29208 at vw.ftc.avagotech.net>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hello,
>
> Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax and
> bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -MichaelC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:04:47 -0600
> From: Brent Wilkins <brent.wilkins at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <3318718767552060425 at unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I've had good luck with http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm. The drive
> must spin & stuff though.
>
> Brent Wilkins
>
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Michael Coffman <coffman at ftc.avagotech.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> > get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> > as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> > data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax
> and
> > bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> > recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> > from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -MichaelC
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:26:47 -0600
> From: Chad Perrin <perrin at apotheon.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <20120618232647.GA8529 at hemlock.hydra>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:02:41PM -0600, Michael Coffman wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> > get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> > as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> > data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax
> and
> > bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> > recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> > from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
>
> What's the problem?  Did the laptop just "stop working" somehow?
> Depending on what happened, it may be that all you need to do is hook up
> the drive to another system to read data from it, and someone here might
> be able to help you with that (myself included).
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:55:29 -0600
> From: Chris Ernst <penguin-guy at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <4FDFBFF1.8040706 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> These guys have helped my company with a hard drive and my dad with an
> SD card:
>
> http://www.datatechlab.com/data-recovery-labs/data-recovery-denver.html
>
> They're in the Denver Tech Center right next to MicroCenter.  It's not
> cheap, but they have the skills and the equipment.
>
> Good luck!
>
>        - Chris
>
> On 06/18/2012 05:02 PM, Michael Coffman wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> > get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> > as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> > data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax
> and
> > bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> > recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> > from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -MichaelC
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCLUG mailing list       NCLUG at lists.nclug.org
> >
> > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or modify
> > your settings, go to:
> > http://lists.nclug.org/mailman/listinfo/nclug
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:48:58 -0600
> From: Sean Reifschneider <jafo at tummy.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] programming language
> To: nclug at lists.nclug.org
> Message-ID: <4FDFDA8A.1050507 at tummy.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/07/2012 05:46 PM, Ben West wrote:
> > I think, given your reply, I'm going to echo Bob here, and suggest you
> use
> > something high-level, like python, using some c libs for serial
> interfacing.
>
> No additional C libraries are required for serial access.  You can do
> C-like serial access in Python via things like:
>
>   import termios
>   import TERMIOS
>   import os
>
>   modem = open(modemLine, 'w+')
>   modemfd = modem.fileno()
>
>   new = termios.tcgetattr(modemfd)
>   new[0] = TERMIOS.IGNBRK | TERMIOS.IGNPAR
>   new[1] = 0
>   new[2] = TERMIOS.CRTSCTS | TERMIOS.HUPCL | TERMIOS.CLOCAL | TERMIOS.CREAD
>   new[2] = new[2] | TERMIOS.CS8 | TERMIOS.B300 | TERMIOS.CSTOPB
>   new[3] = 0
>   new[4] = TERMIOS.B300
>   new[5] = TERMIOS.B300
>   termios.tcsetattr(modemfd, TERMIOS.TCSANOW, new)
>
>   (rfdl, wfdl, efdl) = select.select([modemfd], [], [], 1)
>
>   os.write(modemfd, 'ATDT\r')
>
> Sean
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:01:31 -0600
> From: "F.L. Whiteley" <techzone at greeleynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: "'Northern Colorado Linux Users Group'" <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <039801cd4dd0$36476f80$a2d64e80$@greeleynet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> One trick that may work is to hard freeze the drive.  Seriously, seal it in
> a ziplock bag and put it in the deep freeze overnight and really cold soak
> it.  Then hook it up externally.  It's a 50/50 crapshoot, but I've
> recovered
> 95-100% of data from half of the drives I've done this with.  One drive
> gave
> me five minutes while warming for each of six freeze cycles, but I got 95%
> of it back.  It would not run at all after the seventh freeze.  I have one
> in the freezer right now with a bunch of pictures on it.  Agilent used some
> kind of cold gas to do the same thing.  Micro failures in circuitry
> reconnect at low temperatures due to shrinkage of the circuit boards.
> Sometimes the drives need a flick of the wrist or a thump to get the
> platters spinning or the heads to move.  Be set up to start copying right
> away as you may only get one crack.
>
> YMMV
>
> Frank Whiteley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nclug-bounces at lists.nclug.org [mailto:nclug-bounces at lists.nclug.org]
> On Behalf Of Michael Coffman
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: nclug at lists.nclug.org
> Subject: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
>
> Hello,
>
> Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax and
> bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> from
> the disks would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -MichaelC
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:41:11 -0600
> From: Kerry Miller <n0wiq at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <4FE0ABA7.8050401 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Michael,
>
> Others may have a different approach but my first suggestion would be to
> us Computer Renaissance.  If sit is a mechanical failure the disk will
> have to be removed from the drive and installed into a different
> mechanism.  If the data failure is of the data corruption type it is
> possible that the data could be recovered by use of a special program
> run on a working computer.
>
> Kerry N0WIQ
> My web site URL is:
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/n0wiq
>
>
> On 06/18/2012 05:02 PM, Michael Coffman wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> > get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> > as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> > data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax
> and
> > bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> > recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> > from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -MichaelC
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCLUG mailing list       NCLUG at lists.nclug.org
> >
> > To unsubscribe, subscribe, or modify
> > your settings, go to:
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:44:44 -0600
> From: Chad Perrin <perrin at apotheon.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <20120619164444.GB5561 at hemlock.hydra>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:01:31PM -0600, F.L. Whiteley wrote:
> > One trick that may work is to hard freeze the drive.  Seriously, seal it
> in
> > a ziplock bag and put it in the deep freeze overnight and really cold
> soak
> > it.  Then hook it up externally.  It's a 50/50 crapshoot, but I've
> recovered
> > 95-100% of data from half of the drives I've done this with.  One drive
> gave
> > me five minutes while warming for each of six freeze cycles, but I got
> 95%
> > of it back.  It would not run at all after the seventh freeze.  I have
> one
> > in the freezer right now with a bunch of pictures on it.  Agilent used
> some
> > kind of cold gas to do the same thing.  Micro failures in circuitry
> > reconnect at low temperatures due to shrinkage of the circuit boards.
> > Sometimes the drives need a flick of the wrist or a thump to get the
> > platters spinning or the heads to move.  Be set up to start copying right
> > away as you may only get one crack.
>
> Don't do this unless you need to.  We don't actually know yet if the
> drive itself has stopped working, as far as I'm aware.
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:47:21 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Michael Coffman <coffman at ftc.avagotech.com>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <alpine.LRH.2.02.1206191043270.5314 at sixgun.ftc.avagotech.net>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:02:41PM -0600, Michael Coffman wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Any suggestions on where to take or send a laptop hard drive to try and
> >> get data recovered from it?   I don't know the actual state of the drive
> >> as it isn't mine.   I have zero experience with laptops or trying to get
> >> data from one that is 'broken'.   The person has taken it to officemax
> and
> >> bestbuy and they both said the drive could not be read.   Any
> >> recommendations for a local hardware guru that could maybe extract data
> >> from the disks would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > What's the problem?  Did the laptop just "stop working" somehow?
> > Depending on what happened, it may be that all you need to do is hook up
> > the drive to another system to read data from it, and someone here might
> > be able to help you with that (myself included).
>
> Chad,
>
> Here is what the person with laptop sent me..
>
> "I had heard noises such as click-click-clock-clock coming from the
> laptop's hard drive on Saturday afternoon, before I shut it down.
>
> Since then, whenever I power the laptop ON, this is the message that
> appears:
> No bootable device - insert book disk and press any key
>
> F2
> Startup test failed
> Boot device not found (03F0)
>
> F3
> Run In Test failed
> Boot device not found (03F0)
>
> F4
> Hard Disk Test failed
> Boot device not found (03F0)
>
> F11
> Diagnostic Log
> Result: 03F0"
>
> After that they took it to officemax and then best buy.   Then the
> stopped by my desk yesterday.
>
> I am going to forward the other suggestions to them.  I will also pass
> along your offer to possibly assist.
>
> >
> > --
> > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCLUG mailing list       NCLUG at lists.nclug.org
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>
> -MichaelC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:34:04 -0600
> From: Stephen Warren <swarren at wwwdotorg.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCLUG] Hard drive recovery
> To: Northern Colorado Linux Users Group <nclug at lists.nclug.org>
> Message-ID: <4FE0B80C.2030107 at wwwdotorg.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/19/2012 10:41 AM, Kerry Miller wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > Others may have a different approach but my first suggestion would be to
> > us Computer Renaissance.  If sit is a mechanical failure the disk will
>
> Are they still open? I just noticed as I drove past yesterday that the
> store appeared vacant, but I didn't investigate close enough to be sure.
>
>
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>
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